Here's Fred living up to
bad expectations. He's making a huge and classic moral
error here but doesn't see it..
Fred Rogers' song "Thank You
God" is at 1:10 of his
video and at about 2:05 he
says with a longing smile, "Back then
everything was possible." Oh, the smile at
once having had the upper hand. Then
he tells how NBC politely told him it
would be best to keep it secular and he
threatened to leave the show in a snit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pHfZKUPHjA
Shoot,
I thought he kept religion out on purpose.
He didn't. PBS just wouldn't LET him, the
poor fellow. They couldn't have that. It
doesn't work.
PS the "Thank You God" song sounds like it
was not written for a child, but BY a
child and a really simple Simon child at
that.
I'm sorry to say that that nauseating song
really emphasizes the "tiresome, but
reprehensible"view of a diety in Sam
Harris's video which started the
discussion.
MORE OF MY TROLLY
DISCUSSION WITH A FRIEND:
I
know I've written too much. Why? Well, I
have gotten carried away posting here
because the video led me to one by Mr.
Rogers and IT led me to dislike Mr.
Rogers, whom I liked so much before. I
think I saw some more of this Harris video
on YouTube. I happened to look at a Fred
Rogers video just after I listened to
Harris's speech here. It was on song
writing.
To
my dismay, I found I didn't like Fred much
anymore. At all. I had always loved him. I
was very disappointed to see his attitude
about not being able to proselytize to
other people's children.
I
thought of the part of the Harris video
that starts at about 3:28. Harris gives a
good description of the immorality I see
in one of Fred's songs that he sings in
this video. It's "only tiresome, but
reprehensible" exactly for the reasons
that Harris outlines.
He
was an ordained minister and there I was
doing what all we tolerant people tend to
do and not remembering what Christopher
Hitchens once said about liking people and
praising them precisely to the extent that
they don't seem religious. An interviewer
gave him an example of a religious man and
woman who did charity work and didn't
preach or proselytize.
"Can
that be poisonous?" the interviewer asked,
and Hitchens said:
"No,
but in that case in what sense is it
religious? Again, you're saying these
people are so nice they're hardly
religious at all!"
It
appears that Fred may have only been fit
to admire because the secular PBS
compelled him to behave himself. Fred
wasn’t even going to practice the golden
rule unless his hand was forced. If
someone had a singalong for his kid with
lyrics thanking Allah, Fred would have
thrown a fit I'm sure. But as long as he's
getting it HIS way then who cares about
doing unto others? Very disappointed but I
should have listened to Hitch more. I had
it coming. My wishy-washy liberal
tolerance led me astray.
When
my mom was dying, some damned minister
came by and for some reason we were stupid
enough to leave him alone with her for a
minute. She told him that she wasn’t a
Christian but she could hardly move and
the minister held her hand and started
praying to Jesus for salvation. She told
me this afterwards, and I went looking for
him, but couldn’t find him. Lucky man.
Since then I have no trust in ministers. I
don’t feel that they can be trusted, and
Fred, unfortunately, has lived up to all
my bad expectations
RANT ON THE
GOOD OLD DAYS
Fred's
comment is typical lame brain teary-eyed
nostalgia about the past when the majority
had the upper hand from preaching nonsense
to children to putting blacks in the back
of the bus. Remember the Judd's song
"Grandpa tell me 'bout the Good Old Days?"
Kind of an anthem to this kind of
resistance to giving up the upper hand and
a belief in a mythical Golden Age (for
some). Each of the stanza states beliefs
that are nonsense. Very unhealthy
attitudes in my opinion.
Grandpa
Tell
me 'bout the good old days.
Sometimes
it feels like
This
world's gone crazy.
Grandpa,
take me back to yesterday,
Where
the line between right and wrong
Didn't
seem so hazy.
Did
lovers really fall in love to stay
Stand
beside each other come what may
was
a promise really something people kept,
Not
just something they would say
Did
families really bow their heads to pray
Did
daddies really never go away
Whoa
oh Grandpa,
Tell
me 'bout the good old days.
Grandpa
Everything
is changing fast.
We
call it progress,
But
I just don't know.
And
Grandpa, let's wonder back into the past,
And
paint me a picture of long ago.
Did
lovers really fall in love to stay
Stand
beside each other come what may
Was
a promise really something people kept,
Not
just something they would say and then
forget
Did
families really bow their heads to pray
Did
daddies really never go away
Whoa
oh Grandpa,
Tell
me 'bout the good old days.
Whoa
oh Grandpa,
Tell
me 'bout the good ole days.
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Holly
Lynn Schineller Darn Tommy, This bums me
out.
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Tom
Hascall Cole Well, I was bummed out too.
Who didn't like Fred? But that smile when
he says, "Back then, everything was
possible." tells it all. He really means
only that back then you could get AWAY
with anything. And he's secretly
resentful!
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